We have argued before that the right to insult and gratuitously offend religious adherents is a slippery slope toward discrimination, ostracization and marginalization and no good can come of the aggressive and insidious campaign by secularists and atheists in Ireland. It is but another in a long line of thinly veiled attempts by fanatical secularists to remove religion and by extension religious adherents from the public sphere and it must be rigorously opposed.
Consider the implications of your silence for a moment.
1. Fundamentalist Atheists secure the right to gratuitously offend and insult Muslim beliefs
2. The right to insult becomes ingrained in the psyche of the nation and soon the ridicule of Muslims begins.
3. This impacts on the community as Muslim children are made to feel deficient and different because of their beliefs.
4. This then has a negative effect on educational attainments, leading to a cycle of deprivation in terms of social skills and employment opportunities.
5. The result, an ostracized, marginalised and stigmatized community.
In the 1930’s another organization believed they had the right to gratuitously offended and insult a community of religious believers. They daubed the shops and homes of these people with offensive slogans and forced them to wear yellow stars just so everyone would know that such people should be offended and ridiculed. Soon after, having stripped that community of humanity, having cast them as the ‘other’, the stage was set for their destruction.
Aggressive secularism would seek to cast you as the ‘other’, those to be ridiculed, laughed at and mocked – and then!
Related posts:
السبت 18 محرم 1431 at 9:01 pm
I guess the irony of including statements from Muhammed, Jesus and the Pope flew right over your heads.
From blasphemy.ie
1. Jesus Christ, when asked if he was the son of God, in Matthew 26:64: “Thou hast said: nevertheless I say unto you, Hereafter shall ye see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven.” According to the Christian Bible, the Jewish chief priests and elders and council deemed this statement by Jesus to be blasphemous, and they sentenced Jesus to death for saying it.
2. Jesus Christ, talking to Jews about their God, in John 8:44: “Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him.” This is one of several chapters in the Christian Bible that can give a scriptural foundation to Christian anti-Semitism. The first part of John 8, the story of “whoever is without sin cast the first stone”, was not in the original version, but was added centuries later. The original John 8 is a debate between Jesus and some Jews. In brief, Jesus calls the Jews who disbelieve him sons of the Devil, the Jews try to stone him, and Jesus runs away and hides.
3. Muhammad, quoted in Hadith of Bukhari, Vol 1 Book 8 Hadith 427: “May Allah curse the Jews and Christians for they built the places of worship at the graves of their prophets.” This quote is attributed to Muhammad on his death-bed as a warning to Muslims not to copy this practice of the Jews and Christians. It is one of several passages in the Koran and in Hadith that can give a scriptural foundation to Islamic anti-Semitism, including the assertion in Sura 5:60 that Allah cursed Jews and turned some of them into apes and swine.
السبت 18 محرم 1431 at 9:23 pm
Not at all, it simply highlights the ignorance of AI and their stooge followers. They have continuously demonstrated their ineptitude in dealing with the actual issue, this is simply another example of their grasping at straws. They have lost, they should simply concede before they embarrass themselves further.
Their disgusting and prejudicial reading of the hadith and the inferences they erroneously draw from it highlight the assertion above. Only the most inane resort to the antisemitic argument.
السبت 18 محرم 1431 at 9:44 pm
If they have lost then why are they not being prosecuted? The aim was to make the law look ridiculous. It’s all over the world media now.
السبت 18 محرم 1431 at 10:29 pm
I take it you will now set an example by abandoning your attempts to gratuitously offend and insult the beliefs of ahmadis and shias and correct the quran to remove the offensive remarks about christians, jews and polytheists.
السبت 18 محرم 1431 at 10:44 pm
Do you just feign stupidity Thersites? It is the Qadiani/Ahmadi’s who should be wary now – it is their deviant belief that causes offense to a far greater number. Same with the Shia.
As for Christians, Jews and others – those differences have existed from their inception, no court of law could or would consider a cause of offense a few thousand years after the event.
Silly boy/girl/thing
السبت 18 محرم 1431 at 11:12 pm
In the eyes of the ahmadis and shias- and with just as much reason- your own beliefs are deviant and blasphemous, Mujaahid. You don’t believe that numbers determine the truth of a belief, do you? In fact, the number of muslims in Ireland is so small that you are mistaken to claim your supposed fellow-believers are “a far greater number”. Even if that were not the case, all that it takes is religious believers to believe that remarks were deliberately offensive and they can ask for a case to be brought- and if it were you would find it difficult to squirm your way out of it.
The fact that muslims have gratuitously offended and insulted the beliefs of jews, christians, polythists and others ever since islam was invented is irrelevant: repeat those remarks under the current Irish law of blasphemy and they are blasphemous.
الأحد 19 محرم 1431 at 2:37 pm
Oh come come, wasn’t it you who said the media look for useful idiots Garland, they seem to have found them in AI! They didn’t produce anything blasphemous, nothing that would incite a large number of people at all. The hadith they mentioned is correct, the interpretation is wrong but it’s not blasphemy. And they know that too, that simply highlights the futility of their endeavor – they are inept, spineless morons who have and continue to make an ass of themselves. It’s not surprising you throw your lot in with them, birds of a feather an all….
الأحد 19 محرم 1431 at 7:55 pm
you’ve pretty much summed yourself up there Mujaahid ‘inept, spineless’ moron
الاثنين 20 محرم 1431 at 12:06 am
It’s the legislation they are targeting not mpac sophistry. “Offend enough people and all that” remember. The media does indeed like an idiot but the international media also likes a meme that will spread across the net and off course that was known when this thing has started. The real goal here is to keep this law looking like an international laughing stock as long as it exists so that the Government that replaces this one has it on it’s manifesto to get rid of it
الاثنين 20 محرم 1431 at 7:08 pm
Are you seriously comparing Atheist Ireland to the Nazis? That is totally laughable, the Nazis could say what they wanted and nothing could be said against them. The point of AI is that you have the right to say whatever you want in response, it’s called free speech, try it sometime.